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Discussion in 'The Pub' started by He's a Mentalist 1, Feb 21, 2014.
Or perhaps Romania will get involved and who knows, they might even draft you!
trying to convince greg that both sides are evil and only care about enslaving ukraine through debt is like trying to tell a child that rainbows aren't real. both of them will never believe you.
I'll make a one single shot in order to enlighten you;
You views are inherently flawed on a very basic level. Moreover, Yanukovych was very good at enslaving Ukrainian people, neither USA or EU tried to stop him while Russian Federation was playing ball with him, favor for favor. Keep in mind who Yanukovych was, check his background and proceed from there. You can do the same by looking at how weak Russia was during the 90s and what the west did to help it, not ENSLAVE IT ZOMG BUILDERBERG HURR
Razv, you are still incapable of deciding what's the likelihood of something being true or false and most importantly what drives the people, governments, laws and legislation. Hint, not NWO or The Illuminati.
you're actually comparing a broke ass president playing king of the castle to an international web of conglomerates fighting each other over for more money and power at the global level? greece's debt was bought by goldman sachs. i wonder who's gonna own ukraine. time to flip a coin.
No Razvan, it was brought by John Maynard Keynes and the prevalent Economic and political views during the late 19th and early 20th centuries in USA as well as what happened in European financial institutions after WWI.
People always fought over purchasing power and influence, the fact that economics and government became essentially one is not something you can solely blame on The Rich, or BIG corporations or even The Fed alone. Besides, I thought we were talking about Ukraine and those who essentially ruled it, not the whole world.
You're operating on perceptual level, it's time to step up or to remain blind, Razvan. Your choice to make!
we are talking about ukraine. we're talking about why we have revolutions over there and bloodbaths. one finances a coup over the years while it ends up with the illegitimate leadership of the country, while the other is currently trying to get it back through pushovers both financial and military. ukraine never had an independent leader if thats what you mean. and neither did most countries in the region.
This is how it was financed;
From ordinary citizens who brought food there from local supermarkets to people like Poroshenko.
The last UA president was as autocratic as they come.
this world has little to no secrets in this day and age. everything is done out in the open because ultimately no one cares and those that do can't change anything.
when the actual activist leaders from eastern europe go around bragging on tv how theyre being funded and staging coups on purpose it's kinda hard to make excuses for them greg. or you can always check out cnn. the media isn't covering it up either. not sure why you keep deluding yourself.
here's one of the many examples i gave you:
the last one i pointed out to you was the one from Serbia, with some of them being exposed as working for/with US private contractors.
Independent leaders are those who do business with whomever they please as long as it is beneficial for their country. Joining an alliance while gaining crumbs over selling your own country out is not being independent. It just means you're someone else's bitch. nothing more than a modern slave. you should be ashamed for not knowing your country's political history. how it went from one regime to the next being passed around and owned by people from other places.
Yahh totally, keep on enlightening us.
Just because it works this way for you in your personal life doesn't mean it applies to everyone.
(allegedly) Pro Russian South Ossetia mercenaries who are making a patriotic statement in Donetsk;
It is a really awful situation. Who would have forecast this was going to happen !
I hope there will be a fix pretty soon, our World is suffering enough due to this economical downturn.
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Why are you so fucking retarded?
Holy crap, this is a gutter thanks to you. I quit.
I have to agree, that discussion is laughably embarrassing.
Your cute little predictions for the future could be summarized in a few sentences so stop derping all across the forum.
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