Ukraine Protests

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  1. greg770

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    In soviet russia, politicians vote for you!

    read about it here: http://memegenerator.net/instance/27391883

    and here: http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2...et-russia-the-political-parties-vote-for-you/

    also here: http://www.popehat.com/2011/09/24/in-soviet-russia-party-votes-for-you/

    this isn't something new and as an international group of people I believe we must be respectful of one's own culture and customs as best as we can while having an open and humble understanding on their way of life. thank you. #Putin2020 #RTisNotKGBnotReally
     
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    let's be honest here, while the current frontal assault on eastern ukraine is happening from both sides, a much greater battle is being held right now. it was inevitable, eurovision 2014 is upon us and ukraine and russia are in the finals. I am a vehement supporter of the ruskis since they are twin sisters and clearly have larger breasts than the plain copy-paste Inna pop singer.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ussia-in-music-propaganda-battle-9333500.html

    UK is also in the finals because they paid for it.

    also, make sure you guys check out the 11 seconds where the sisters got booed on the stage:

    [youtube]s0UMNYOqjlA[/youtube]

    the propaganda is pretty deep into this competition. we always knew that it was political driven, but to have it to such extent that most youtube videos and online articles have the twins' real cup measurements hidden? ridiculous. you can check them out here to see the real truth:

    [youtube]QFbS945bWEw[/youtube]

    far superior and no-photoshop. russia is not playing.



    as far as the revolution is going, Pyotr Kosakhov, bus driver, says Donetsk is no longer part of Ukraine. Referendum is still underway.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/07/uk-ukraine-crisis-referendum-idUKKBN0DN0GD20140507
     
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    Who the fuck cares about Eurovsion? Or bus drivers?


    Hurr durr I guess I forgot I'm on anime forum...
     
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    OK, but can we agree that right now Russia is Itachi and Ukraine is Sasuke? And if Russia uses referendum-no-jutsu to turn the place into a civil war then Russia might turn into Madara and Ukraine into 6th path Sasuke, right? US is always Naruto. EU is Kakashi, Minato, etc. The problem is that Naruto hasn't done anything besides using kagebunshin-no-jutsu so far.
     
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    No we can't Razv, mainly cuz we are both too old for such idiotic analogies. Well, I certainly am. Also, It's Putin and his United Russia party as well as its political and civilian supporters who use referendum to destabilize the situation in UA. Not Russia, I've seen and heard too many Russians who don't buy into that narrative. Although, they are in the minority.

    USA does act, but no one is expecting to see them on UA soil.


    Also, we might see pro separatist Chechen's fighting in Ukraine, or at the very least their dead bodies in a few days.
     
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    Wait, are you saying that the people currently "defying" kremlin and holding this current referendum are in fact chechen separatists and not real pro-russians? I just thought Putin was playing the victim here while still having his own way. Breaking off another part of Ukraine being his move of acquiring momentum and getting a strong foothold in this upcoming ukrainian presidential election.

    Also, the US is already on the ground there, from FBI, CIA to mercenaries and actual soldiers. We've seen them in videos and heard from other security services like the germans, just not many to actually fight the russians. Mostly consulting and stuff.
     
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    A certain segment of Russian society always opposed him. There were series of protests in Russia in 2011-12 now known as Bolotnoe delo, google it. After those protests Kremlin took many civil liberties from Russians. Putin doesn't play "victim" he's building Russian World by taking back what belongs to "it". You totally missed the whole point of what he was doing and what he said during the last large press conference. Hmm..See why I've been calling you a moron? You made plenty of sweeping statements about neo nazi Maidan without knowing what's going on. Now, it's ok for you not to know, you don't speak the friggin language but whatever.

    http://www.fpri.org/articles/2014/05/putins-greater-novorossiya-dismemberment-ukraine
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-denies-russian-forces-eastern-ukraine-kiev

    Use whatever you want to translate it, I can't be bothered since no one will pay me...
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    http://www.kremlin.ru/news/20796

    And more;
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    http://www.kremlin.ru/news/20796

    Unfortunately I can't find his quotes in English, those would let you know what he's really about. Especially about beauty of dying for your country.

    I'm all for consulting. Besides, CIA working in Ukraine is something self evident, really. Everyone is there right now watching how it will turn out. Also, show some non Infowhores johnsed proof.
     
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    I also forgot to mention such popular politicians like Alexei Navalny, Irina Khakamada, Grigory Yavlinsky and Boris Nemtsov. Many of them were removed from the political process and replaced with very inept politicians who play the role of "opposition" in Russia. Most of them are very supportive of Putin when it comes to..Almost everything.

    This quote will tell you everything about the way Putin sees the Russian World and identity.
     
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    I know quite a lot about the russian opposition over there. To add to your list, there's also the guy that owned the equivalent to the russian facebook. He was forced out of his position and he apparently moved out of the country. Then Putin came on air and said how the internet was always a CIA spying program and how half of it is just porn anyway.

    He's kinda right though (not word for word), but at the same time he does sound pretty insane while saying it. The west is lucky because Putin is freaking old and has that certain mentality that you can see when he speaks, if the russian authorities decided to put a new young leader with more 21st century ideas that can appeal to the youth both national and international, they would be totally fucked. Example: Have Putin as president for hard end deals with places like Brazil, India, Africa and the young guy that calls most of the shots be prime-minister whom is more concentrated on creating a better image of Russia in the west. Or vice-versa with their roles. young - prez. old - minister.

    And let's be frank here, many russian activists are and have been funded by the west for an incredibly long time now starting with their leaders. And it is all done out in the open and legally. Same deal in Venezuela, Belarus and so on. I even saw CNN reports on it this year. Both sides are playing the game, don't try to make it seem how one is better than the other.

    If the US or any other western country truly cared about the ukrainian people, they wouldve quickly signed the NATO pact with them, rallied the troops both from Ukraine and the other countries then charged inside the nation, sent every pro-russian separatist to Russia and sealed the borders while installing military bases in less than a week. But instead, you see the IMF lending UA some of their funds which are actually debt. Theyre paying debt with debt. The only difference is that now they changed owners. From Russia to the IMF. Goodjob. That's real progress right there.
     
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    He's not. Excpet about first version of "Internet" being disigned by government for military purposuses.
    Putin is the main authority in Russia. There is no larger conspiracy behind him. He does have a team though but he is not a puppet, many people who know him and how Russian govt works (including his opponents) say that. No Illuminati Razvan, no biulderurhbuhrr.

    I know you think you know better, it's okay, just calm down and stop typing.

    Partly.
    They wouldn't, it would enrage Putin. I've already posted links which explain why Putin has the upper hand when it comes to military conflict and why USA shouldn't intervene for now. Moreover, Ukraine doesn't meet the requirements. Plus, NATO is not charity, USA already gives UA money which it shouldn't.
    They do what they can. Why don't you show us some progress and show some intellect.
     
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    True Conspiracy for genius, he may of into google trnslatings for halp.
    Pictur
     
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    greg, i would rather straight up criticize the countries that can have an impact on my daily life than kiss their asses, make excuses for their failures and worship them unconditionally. you however can continue doing so.

    Putin is not Stalin. You might wanna remember that. The Russian Federation isn't Soviet Russia either. In your mind, the country the size of a large continent is run by a bald old guy and a few of his friends. ok

    So?

    so the US, most of Europe, Canada, Australia, NZ, S. Korea, Japan alongside all the other allies out there wouldn't be able to restore control in Ukraine if they actually wanted to? are you even aware on what planet you live on?

    you do understand that if the russians invade no one is going to back them up militarily or otherwise. it could be a clear win if NATO intervened. And it's not just NATO, it can also be taken to the UN directly and have a global intervention based on violations of human rights.

    but i like i said, it's more about owning Ukraine through debt rather than saving it. it's a cash cow and a sensitive geopolitical target to have and neither side is willing to let go of it at this point.

    actually thats what NATO is. a military charity case. Its sole purpose is to stomp on the russian invasion/s/expansion/s. thats why it exists in the first place. why do you think the US funds Ukraine in the first place?

    not only do i show intellect and a clear history path but also i show balls. the reason why i criticize more the US and EU in general is because whenever they make a move they have an impact on my life. china or even russia, are minor players and barely affect me directly. there's a full on revolution at my doorstep and everything is chillax here.
     
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    greg has a crap belief system, and the logic of that system is warped and rather backwards. One of the reasons why I cannot get angry with the guy. He is very delusional, so much so that I can only pity him.
     
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    I think you mistake my balanced approach to your own idiotic and completely baseless comments, so how about you'll show me how exactly I worship "them".

    So he's been in the office for 12 years, he silenced his real opposition and effectively the so called Russian "Federation" into a new mongrel state. Most people who wrote the Russian constitution argue that it's not a Federation anymore at all.

    It seems like they can't, mainly due to their own incompetence.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/21/uk-ukraine-crisis-kremlin-analysis-idUKBREA3K07Y20140421
    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/was-ukraine-betrayed-geneva-10272?page=show
    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.nl/2014/04/window-on-eurasia-betrayal-of-ukraine.html

    It's a pity you didn't bother to read some of the previous links I posted which explain why USA/NATO/EU can not do whatever they want in Eastern European Regions.
    Not, NATO has 0 obligations to UA, again previous links. Also, Funding UA is different then stomping. I also happened to think they wasted those money, especially before EuroMaidan.
    Yes of course, keep on showing your balls on anime forum, because that's all they are good for you dumb impotent pig lol.
     
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    I saw russia is itachi and Ukraine is sasuke. seems I've missed quite a bit.
     
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    Russia is a tick compared to the U.S.

    We still have a military capable of fighting two different, massive ground wars. Russia barely has the capability to take over Ukraine.
     
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    Russia haz nukes minty, so har-har.
     
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    watch the fuck out cause if NATO intervenes in Ukraine, the indian army will come to Putin's rescue.

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