Ukraine Protests

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  1. He's a Mentalist 1

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    http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-39-pr...DMTBsa3ZzMnBvBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--

    Just an excerpt from an article. What are your thoughts on what's going on? Greg770 why haven't you talked about this?
     
  2. greg770

    greg770 Nomene tengo

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    Because it's corruption vs rabid nationalistism/pissed off people who have no clear goals/have crappy goals. And why should I talk about this?
     
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    I just hope that the US doesn't go in. That is my only thought.
     
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    Ohh come on, don't be so greedy I don't ask for a lot. A few tomahawks will be just fine.
     
  5. He's a Mentalist 1

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    What are you views, who do you side with on this issue, greg? Is it as bad as some American media outlet are saying?
     
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    No....
     
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    I side myself with the righteous doctrine of Individualism which is nowhere to be found in UA. I'm not going to fill you in on UA dynamics either, you can google Ukrainian Nationalism on your own. Or find out about widespread corruption.
    Let me post something else, again, you can google Nuland on your own.
    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM[/YOUTUBE]
    And here is a gd article;http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/26/the_basket_case
    Not even a drone? Ahh I know, you should send Hillary and Pelosi as weapons of mass destruction while Obama is occupied.
     
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    How about some good quality American high powered pebbles with some American made Slingshots.
     
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    Absolutely nothing. People need to deal with their own problems.
     
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    Western Corruption vs. Eastern Corruption

    FIGHT!

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwWPadFsOA[/youtube]​
     
  11. He's a Mentalist 1

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    I don't believe America is going to invade. If we didn't invade North Korea already, we sure as hell aren't going to invade the Ukraine. Anything the president says about this is just saving face. We really don't give a shit if 10,000 of you Ukrainians died; if it is not within our interests, what's the point? Not very good, but still, that is the type of world we live in. Gotta have that incentive to do good.
     
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    You make it sound like this is a bad thing. It isn't the responsibility of the US to bring down every single tyrant, bad government, or uprising on the planet. There are certain instances where it is simply necessary(Nazi Germany), but with stuff like what is going on in Ukraine, it is best to allow the natural course of events to proceed.
     
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    Indeed we have enough problems to worry about. Like, wich Sesame Street character will touch kids next. Or, what oil filled country will we target next. Or, will Ellen Page being gay tear us apart from the inside like in Alien.
     
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    you forgot kim cardassian's upcoming nuptials to kanye west.
     
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    Damn I knew there was something important........... is it important? Well to us AmUUrcans it is.
     
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    Sorry, we don't need anymore of our troops getting killed over us poking our noses into other people's business. After we've helped, then people will start whining about us helping(they are going to whine regardless.) Sorting out this kind of thing is the purpose of the U.N. If anything happens in Ukraine, the international community should do it not the United States.
     
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    I don't have an issue with someone taking out a loan from us instead of the other way around for a change. We give much more in loan guarantees to Israel anyway.

    Loan guarantees were not invented by Democrats. Republicans take part in them as well.: http://articles.latimes.com/1992-08-12/news/mn-5345_1_loan-guarantee. Of course, those like yourself, are more concerned with being anti-Democrat than understanding the reality of what is actually going on.
     
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    Timid observer, instead opting for blowing shit up or supporting coup d'etats, why not use diplomacy and bring it preferably through arbitration and mediations. The only justification for war is self defence. Just ask Thomas Paine.
     
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    You would have to get into specifics like particular instances of shit being blown up, particular coup d'etats that were supported, and particular cases where diplomacy was never attempted at any point. I don't have any particular view on any of those the broad idea of any of the things you listed. Whether I support or do not support something would depend situation.

    I don't necessarily support what is going on in Ukraine. I do support staying out of it. Though, they can feel free to borrow money from us as long as they intend to pay us back.
     
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